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Original by Hermant Mehta: friendlyatheist.com/2009/04/21…

Nothing is by me.
People who object to homosexuality can object away, but I will not bother with replying to you.

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The Religious Right keeps saying gay-rights activists are “redefining marriage”:

  "Changing the definition of marriage would undermine the very nature that gives marriage its unique status in society. Ultimately, forcing marriage to mean all things will force marriage to mean nothing at all. (The Heritage Foundation) "

The same group of people also goes on about how God loves gay people:

    "God loves homosexuals. He loves them just as he loves every other human on the planet.
    …
    People living a homosexual lifestyle are sinners like the rest of us and, like the rest of us, they are people created by God and loved by God. As such, we are called to love in whatever sinful state we happen to find them. "




I say this to the religious people who oppose marriage equality:

You think we’re redefining marriage?

How can you accuse us of that when you’ve done something far worse?

You redefined love.

“Love the sinner, hate the sin”? Please…

For you, “love” means making sure gay people cannot adopt a child who needs a home.

For you, “love” means stripping away the marital status of gay couples who were legally married in California before Proposition 8 took effect.

For you, “love” means accepting someone only if they never act on their sexuality.

For you, “love” means putting our country at risk if gay people in our military dare mention they are in a same-sex relationship.

For you, “love” means allowing doctors to refuse patients who need their help because the patients are gay.

For you, “love” means preventing homosexuals from serving in leadership positions for organizations like the Boy Scouts because you oppose their sexual orientation.

For you, “love” means telling someone else what they can and cannot do in the privacy of their bedroom.

For you, “love” means removing your children from school for a day so they can’t witness other students taking a stand for LGBT rights.



I know we’ve heard the rebuttal to this notion of “redefining marriage” — marriage has been redefined a countless number of times. From a property arrangement to a love marriage to interracial marriage, etc. The definition of marriage has never been static.

But how dare Christians make that accusation: You’re redefining marriage.

They say it like we’ve done something wrong.

How dare you belittle us for trying to promote equality and marriage and civil rights?

You’re Christians. Aren’t those values you’re supposed to endorse?

We are not trying to change how your church operates or how you practice your faith. We’re not telling you how to live your life. We’re not forcing you to adopt our beliefs.

Who is showing more love here?
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TRegnier2795 Featured By Owner May 30, 2009
This article actually brought a tear to my eye.
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NintendoGal55 Featured By Owner May 14, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for finding all this and posting it up for everyone to see! :clap:

I myself am a lesbian, and I can say right now to anyone that being gay or bi, whichever, is the furthest thing from a choice. *DarkPhoenixIncarnate is exactly right. :nod:

I also agree with what ~indecisive-x said, about how even homophobes have the right to an opinion. Yes, that 's true, even if I want to smack homophobes upside the head. I guess as long as they just stay on the line of bitching and whining and saying how much we are an "abomination" and "sinners", that's tolerable.

But when they bring out something like Prop 8 that actually DOES go against our rights, then that is going way too far, actually stepping into personal lives. That's completely inexcusable. It really does make asses of themselves and a lot worse than the "abominating sinners" they make us out to be.

I said this very thing about racism, that they use personal experience, ignorance and history as an excuse for how much homosexuality and/or a certain race is oh-so bad.

So, as long as being a homo or of a different race actually causes harm to other people in any kind of way, they really have no argument at all. ^_^
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rebelatheart Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2009
Religion and state should be separated by definition. Ergo: if a gay couple wants to get married in a church, the church has the right to say no, but if they want to get married at the town hall, they should have that right. Period.
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Morgan-666 Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Utmost gratitude for posting you opinions on this {as semi-solid and general as they may be}! disregard the comments made by
ramaeschlimann-who obviously has no concious mind.
In the end, all I can say is that people like you and I must tolerate those who are more ignorant than us,mainly those who,like the aforementioned,are retaliating our/your reasonable arguments with unsupported and illogical belief systems that cannot be fully accepted as true evidence of conclusion.
In other words,you know someone is crazy when they quote a book written and translated over thousands of years into the hysteric mess it is today. You are more well-informed in terms of reality than them.
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giorjoe Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2009  Professional General Artist
What does this topic have to do with art?
Only art-related articles please!
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T-Weaver Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's in the culture-happenings folder. In the news section.
It doesn't have to have anything to do with art.
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LastSummerGoodbye Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2009
Just be careful of who your accusing when you mention gay rights.

I do understand that a lot of Christians are against gay marriage, but I also know an equal amount of people who oppose homosexuality that aren't Christians. Sometimes they belong to another religious group and other times they're not religious at all, so when you are making articles such as this one be very mindful of who you're accusing.

I also understand that you're not talking to Christians who are open to homosexuality, but it's just a heads up. ;)

I personally don't have an offensive view on homosexuality, but at the same time I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion and with that, everyone is entitled to their own privacy.

Basically saying, if you have something against gays, so be it, just don't become violent and oppressive towards others and their views. Know that they have reasons why think it's right. That goes the same the other way around.

If you are an activist of gay rights, that's great, but be very careful of the way you speak up because someone can take your words offensively and use that against you and when that happens, the things that you are fighting for can be ripped apart.

I guess you can say I'm rather passive on this subject, but as I've stated before everyone has their own opinions and instead of pointing fingers and calling names, it's better we learn how to control ourselves when voicing what we think is right.
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dmillustration Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2009  Professional
Interesting article. I agree with a lot of it. I happened by this news by chance, and I think you may be interested in Eshto's gallery, he has numerous arguments arguing in favor gay marriage and how marriage is in the bible ----> [link]
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T-Weaver Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, I think I have seen that person's first, somewhat disturbing imagery, of marriage in the bible c: thanks!
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wyrmlover Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2009
Yeah, I wish people would be more tolerant. ):

*sigh* You have no idea how many people have told me that it's "unnatural" to be gay. (I'm straight, btw; so that there's no confusion later)

It really ticks me off when some jerkoff wants to go into someone else's life and try to change something that will NEVER AFFECT THEM, whilst claiming that they are Christian (not every homophobe is Christian, I know that) when God's very first commandment says "Judge not lest ye be judged".
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